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Topic: Anislie or Scott
Posted By: Rockhopper
Subject: Anislie or Scott
Date Posted: 01 Aug 12 at 8:21am
Well after seeing how windy the last few days have been and how ben has been doing it makes me wonder if Scott would have been faster what is everyone elses views ?
Do get me wrong i am not knocking ben i think he is doing ok but that dane is doing better !


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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 01 Aug 12 at 8:32am
I think we just have to accept that the Dane is coming out with the performance of a lifetime. He's not just beating Ainslie but all the others as well.


Posted By: tryinghard
Date Posted: 01 Aug 12 at 8:35am
Originally posted by Rockhopper

Well after seeing how windy the last few days have been and how ben has been doing it makes me wonder if Scott would have been faster what is everyone elses views ?
Do get me wrong i am not knocking ben i think he is doing ok but that dane is doing better !


Ah! The old "if my aunt had b*ll*cks would she have been my uncle" question. Toughie.


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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 01 Aug 12 at 8:40am
Indeed jim i did not see the Dane in any events before hand but then again four brits were in the top ten at the last event before the olympics .
Roll on tomorrow and see what the weather brings more wind again me thinks 

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 01 Aug 12 at 9:03am
He's 12 kgs heavier and it's been windy, hence his better upwind speed, it's just physics, if the wind moderates after today and the medal race gets held in lighter conditions, it could still happen for Ben couldn't it. (Someone needs to do the maths on the medal race v overall total, I wasn't at all hopeful until I read that, weight is everything in one design sailing (assuming your perfect at doing everything else))

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 01 Aug 12 at 4:00pm
I am not getting drawn into the Giles or Ben question - they are both great sailors as are Ed Wright, Andrew Mills and Mark Andrews who are all capable of putting in great results on their day.  As for Jonas, the Dane, he has proven his skills in 2009 by winning the Finn Gold Cup that year.  Jonas has been out and in of Finns since then but started some serious work on equipment last year which I am sure has helped his performance this week.

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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 01 Aug 12 at 4:08pm
JHC just appears to come into this regatta at the absolute top of his game- mentally and physically fit, maybe without the same expectations on him as some of his rivals.  This is either positive or negative... but in a sport where being in tune with natural surroundings is so key, it's no wonder that a clear, but seemingly relaxed approach can be effective.

I wouldn't write BA off yet, he's come back from worse and he's still in second overall..... hardly curtains.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Aug 12 at 3:00pm
And vindicated. Well done BA.

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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 05 Aug 12 at 7:40pm
What can i say well done to Ben i think i am not the only one who was worried untill that medal race finished .
Still the future is bright for the finn class what a brill week of weather they have had and everyone has shown that sailing is such a great sport to be in Wink

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 05 Aug 12 at 7:59pm
I thought his parting comment was more relevant when asked about going to Rio it went something along the lines, 'sailing these things is destroying my body'.

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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 8:52am
aye. If not the Finn at Rio, I'm not sure what else- unless the ACWS stuff makes him superb at catamarans? That would annoy the rafters somewhat, they get the mutli back in and a man from the world of "half-boats" comes along and takes their spot...

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Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 9:58am
Originally posted by Timmus

Originally posted by G.R.F.

I thought his parting comment was more relevant when asked about going to Rio it went something along the lines, 'sailing these things is destroying my body'.
 
Funnily enough Graham, that's what I picked up on.
Think I will stick with my D-One.
Tongue
To be fair it isn't the Finn that is the problem but swithcing off rule 42 and thus trying to air row a heavy boat that is physically challenging ...


Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by Timmus

Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by Timmus

Originally posted by G.R.F.

I thought his parting comment was more relevant when asked about going to Rio it went something along the lines, 'sailing these things is destroying my body'.
 
Funnily enough Graham, that's what I picked up on.
Think I will stick with my D-One.
Tongue
To be fair it isn't the Finn that is the problem but swithcing off rule 42 and thus trying to air row a heavy boat that is physically challenging ...
 
Agreed.
 
If BA says he gets to the bottom mark and he feels sick with it being worse than any of his gym workouts, then.....bloomin heck that's tuff, and then to have to go upwind again....brrrr.

+like

The air rowing of the Finns down wind looks ridiculous, when it was turned off they just turned to rocking like all the other classes. 


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 3:07pm
Jeez, if you thing that's tough, you should try 4 hours of 'air rowing' around Hayling Island, that stuff they're doing in the Finns? Walking pussy in the park, Windsurfers? We pump all the way round the course, no sitting down to relax upwind.. Funny enough with the bigger rig used on the RSX, pumping isn't as prevalent as it was with previous classes, and of course they get to use the harness these days, now when men were really men.....Wink

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Posted By: L192444
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Jeez, if you thing that's tough, you should try 4 hours of 'air rowing' around Hayling Island, that stuff they're doing in the Finns? Walking pussy in the park, Windsurfers? We pump all the way round the course, no sitting down to relax upwind.. Funny enough with the bigger rig used on the RSX, pumping isn't as prevalent as it was with previous classes, and of course they get to use the harness these days, now when men were really men.....Wink
Give it up ... we already know nothing we are watching this week is a patch on beach toy racing in the 70s and that if you were younger you'd be whipping the ar5e of all the sailors currently at Weymouth ...


Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 5:18pm
So what next then perhaps Ben will go over to the star class and take over from percy like he did with the finn .God knows classes will be at the next games anyway ?


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Posted By: nutonthetiller
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 5:21pm
The biggest improvement for RIO would be a new BBC commentator!


Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by Rockhopper

So what next then perhaps Ben will go over to the star class and take over from percy like he did with the finn .God knows classes will be at the next games anyway ?
 
Currently no Star at RioCry


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