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Topic: RS300 A-rig
Posted By: Guests
Subject: RS300 A-rig
Date Posted: 03 May 06 at 4:20pm
I know this may be a silly question but does the A-rig sail for the RS300 use the same mast as the B-rig sail??


Doug



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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 03 May 06 at 4:28pm
no they are different masts.

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Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 04 May 06 at 8:24pm
Originally I understand the A rig mast was softer to allow it to depower, but later they just cut down the B rig mast and put the gooseneck in to suit! (presumably cos the A rig doesn't point, and a stiffer mast should hold the leach tension a bit better) You can hoist an A sail on a B mast, but you end up with a bit of bare mast sticking up, and I don't think it would be class legal. Incidentally, the top sections can be swapped, subject to the angle of the cut where they join. Alternatively, the B rig can be reefed, and ends up the same size (ish) as the A.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04 May 06 at 10:04pm
Originally posted by Rob.e

Originally I understand the A rig mast was softer to allow it to depower, but later they just cut down the B rig mast and put the gooseneck in to suit! .


I was under the impression that the difference in sail area was predominantly through a difference of the depth of the sail, i didnt realise there would also need to be a height variance in the masts also.......
Ah well

Thanks guys
Doug


Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 05 May 06 at 8:30pm
Which one do you have? Mine was 318

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 May 06 at 11:18pm
I dont actualy own a 300 im afriad (certainly wouldnt say no), im asking for a friend who although i really do believe could handle the B-rig (she's better than she'll admit) would be much better suited to the A-rig due to her size.  Problem being that she loves the look of the 300 but one with an A-rig on the 2nd hand market seems to be a bit of a rarity.  And shelling out 800 on another mast aswell as having to buy the A-sail doesnt really inspire.  Its a shame really because i personally believe the 300 to be a BRILLIANTLY designed boat!!

Doug


Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 07 May 06 at 6:26pm

Once you are used to the rig, it is very easy to de-power, and the B rig is almost certainly better. A rig boats do come up from time to time however, and I got my rig 2nd hand from LDC pretty cheap. Personally, I think the 300 has one of the best one design singlehander rigs ever made. Sadly, they probably made the boat a bit too demanding for that market: people don't expect to spend that much time learning a non trapeze boat. If it had a trapeze or an assy, no-one would be suprised that it needs a season to learn it, but people seem to expect to be able to jump straight into the 300, and unless you have appropriate experience, you can't! Take the time to learn a few simple techniques, and it ain't that hard, and the rewards are......well worth it!!

Lovely boat



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Posted By: Bryn_14
Date Posted: 26 Nov 10 at 10:28pm
How much would it cost to get a B rig and sail do you guys think?


Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 26 Nov 10 at 10:41pm
Bryn, the mast is not cheap fella, the sails are about 500, the mast just shy of a grand, unfortunately you have to buy both sections.  I would suggest you look for a boat with the B-rig already.  Not that there is much bloody difference between the two.

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Posted By: Bryn_14
Date Posted: 27 Nov 10 at 10:23am
Thanks for your help.


Posted By: kevinwhead
Date Posted: 09 Mar 19 at 11:04am
Why does the A rig not have its own PY number (like Aero, Laser etc.)? There must be enough data by now to work out the offset. When I was sailing exclusively in a B rig, the chap in an A rig never got close whatever the conditions. It made the A rig a bit pointless; better to keep the big rig up and deal with the conditions. I found exactly the same when I was in Lasers and it was permitted to sail a radial sometimes but signed on as a full rig - this just doesn't work!


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Mar 19 at 11:37am
It doesn't have a separate number because clubs don't report the boat as two separate classes.


Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 09 Mar 19 at 1:03pm
half the battle with py is getting decent data from the clubs, which in turn need it from the sailors.  if all the clubs had the same race entry system you might stand a chance, but again relies on the sailors themselves selecting the right rig.

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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 11 Mar 19 at 9:20am
Wasnt there a class rule with regards to the A and B rigs on the 300? They were never intended to be different classes along the lines of the Laser, Radial and 4.7.

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 11 Mar 19 at 9:41am
Originally posted by jeffers

...They were never intended to be different classes along the lines of...

Exactly so. It came out in the days when the performance equalisation fad was still in fashion.


Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 11 Mar 19 at 11:44am
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by jeffers

...They were never intended to be different classes along the lines of...

Exactly so. It came out in the days when the performance equalisation fad was still in fashion.

Then the majority of them realised they could handle the B and the A faded somewhat.


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Posted By: seasailor
Date Posted: 15 Mar 19 at 3:22pm
Plus you could reef the B rig. I don't know if you still can


Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 18 Mar 19 at 10:06pm
Speaking as a short arsed 72Kg sailor I can report that upwind the B is completely manageable in breeze.
Downwind reaching can get tricky in waves, I just haven't got the mass/length to dangle over the back corner.
I haven't mastered square running so couldn't comment.



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