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Unhealthy desires for boat butchery

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Topic: Unhealthy desires for boat butchery
Posted By: MerlinMags
Subject: Unhealthy desires for boat butchery
Date Posted: 20 Aug 14 at 5:47pm
From another discussion thread:
Originally posted by Kev M

I have an unhealthy desire to turn a Flying Fifteen into a scaled down J-class.


Is this any madder than the chap who designed the tiny Illusion one-man keelboats to fit the 12m rule?

I really love these sort of ideas. It reminds me of the 6ft skiff designs this forum saw. We've seen a few 'Frankenboats' mentioned too, but are there any more dreams that you fear we'll never see taking shape in the garage? Let's hear them all!

I find my mind often wandering, considering how to combine the bits of boat I own in a new way. What would a Merlin Rocket mainsail/mast look like, with a trapeze, on that old Cadet hull my daughter is using as a sandpit? Hmmmm...



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Posted By: robinft
Date Posted: 20 Aug 14 at 8:41pm
I remember a cadet week at Thorpe Bay 45 years ago when anything was allowed rig wise in one race. Cadet with a masthead rigged Hornet genoa looked good - overlap was entirely appropriate for a 70s big boat too.

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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 21 Aug 14 at 10:30am
Here's someone's dream that made it to reality:
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/classifieds/view.asp?id=4648" rel="nofollow - www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/classifieds/view.asp?id=4648

Take a 12ft GRP hull and turn it into a cutter rigged yawl (4 sails). More sheets than a Salcombe Yawl and it's much smaller!


Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 21 Aug 14 at 6:05pm
We had a silly conversation once about putting dual sliding seats on an FD.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 Aug 14 at 6:28pm
Thats less silly than the person who originally put one on a Minisail, surely?

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 21 Aug 14 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by Rupert


Thats less silly than the person who originally put one on a Minisail, surely?

You'd have preferred a trapeze, Rupert?

But with that narrow beam you need something that will help balance sufficient sail area to master the large scow wetted area, and the stability of a scow makes it possible. Wings are the obvious answer, esp. lightweight carbon ones nowadays; surprised you don't see more Minisails thus-equipped. I have a cunning idea for them should you ever get the urge.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 Aug 14 at 7:41pm
I like mine narrow. The hull shape makes it easier than a pointy bow would be for the width.


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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 21 Aug 14 at 8:12pm
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Rupert


Thats less silly than the person who originally put one on a Minisail, surely?

You'd have preferred a trapeze, Rupert?

But with that narrow beam you need something that will help balance sufficient sail area to master the large scow wetted area, and the stability of a scow makes it possible. Wings are the obvious answer, esp. lightweight carbon ones nowadays; surprised you don't see more Minisails thus-equipped. I have a cunning idea for them should you ever get the urge.

Shivers at the thought of scows and wings which are acting as a reminder about the V-Dub!


Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 21 Aug 14 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by sargesail

Shivers at the thought of scows and wings which are acting as a reminder about the V-Dub!
That, for me, is the great tragedy of the Grumphenboat.  With a more enlightened approach it could have been a winner.


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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 8:44am
Originally posted by rogerd

We had a silly conversation once about putting dual sliding seats on an FD.


Far too silly. You needed these devices instead:



Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 8:49am
Brilliant - gets the weight right aft as the wind drops off, and gets the bow well in for those hairy reaches   

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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 9:10am
Thanks, that really made me laugh!

The answer is simple then - put the pivot point near the transom. Make it out of carbon and what's not to like?


Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 9:27am
Then you'd just need one 'device' pivoted on the transom below the tiller.  Aft bridle, off-the-boom sheeting and a gnav and away you go.  Wire-to-wire tackers eat your hearts out.

Darting around the office on your castored swivel chair would be the ideal training.


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Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 9:27am
If there was a prize for conversions, then my vote would go to the GP14 converted to a scale 3 masted sailing ship.

http://www.festinalente.org.uk/photos/newbelleisle/album/index.html" rel="nofollow - www.festinalente.org.uk/photos/newbelleisle/album/index.html


Posted By: robinft
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 9:36am
Originally posted by Andymac

If there was a prize for conversions, then my vote would go to the GP14 converted to a scale 3 masted sailing ship.

LINK;

www.festinalente.org.uk/photos/newbelleisle/album/index.html


I agree, apart from the red ensign...


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 9:50am
One day I'll come across a 49er rig at the right price and we'll see what the V2 can do in it's current state. That or a B14 rig.

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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 3:52pm
would be great in a post apocalyptic world, with a couple of machine guns mounted to it!

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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 22 Aug 14 at 8:23pm
Now that's an entirely new image GRF as the Mel Gibson character in Waterworld, atop a non-catamaran dinghy as wide as the original boat, complete with his trademark split cheek wetsuit.

Shivers...



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