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Topic: 420 transom
Posted By: scottishgem
Subject: 420 transom
Date Posted: 10 Sep 05 at 11:43pm

Hi all

Does anyone know if 420's are supposed to have a transom flap? Our old girl had one but we've got hacked off with water spewing through it on light days so out came the fibre glass and it flaps open no more!! Im also having a problem with the self bailer so when i find a suitably small socket thats coming off and its getting a nice new silicon seal before it goes bcak on. Any tips?

Gem

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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 10 Sep 05 at 11:59pm
Replacing the silicon seals seem the best place to start. Also when you take it off play around with it to see if its locking properly in the up position. If not I'd be replacing it. Used to sail a 420 now and again, and the boat I was sailing had the transom flaps but had elastic attached to it which ran along to a metal hook on the base of the centreboard casing. The elastic held the flaps tight against the transom and I believe the elastic was replaced any time it was looking like wearing. On the windier days, the flaps were really good for draining the boat of any water. 

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Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ -
Helensburgh S.C
http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine



Posted By: scottishgem
Date Posted: 11 Sep 05 at 12:42am

cool! thanks for that, yeah there were wee elastic straps, so maybe it was standard... just the flap was a piece of acrylic gaffa taped on so thought it had to go!!!! and it was causing a crack to appear!!

Notice youre in helensburgh, my better half dad used to keep his boat in Rhu, theres an Atlantic 75 on station there great boat, same as ours.. u on the crew??

gem

(in Aberystwyth)



Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 11 Sep 05 at 12:47am
I only occassionally do the bigger boat stuff so not really crewing on anything with a keel. Did he used to keep the boat in the Marina or at the Royal Northern?

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Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ -
Helensburgh S.C
http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine



Posted By: scottishgem
Date Posted: 11 Sep 05 at 12:51am

it was on a mooring near Drum. Westerly fulmar. yachts are cool! less milage to get to scotland than by road, and much more fun!

You should join your local lifeboat crew ILBs are even more fun than 420s and go out in much more interesting weather



Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 11 Sep 05 at 1:10am
We were too big to be sailing the 420 when we were, so used to go out in absolutely balistic conditions, leaving a Laser 5000 on the shore for the less windier days. Used to love it and at one Reggatta, the race officer messed up on our results because he couldn't believe we'd done more laps than the cats and skiffs. Got it sorted & had a full sheet of firsts. That was one of the most fun times we've had on the water, and strangely for me, we never swam. Wouldn't mind doing the Lifeboats at some point but don't they involve a lot of committment, and any time I've done rescue duty, or been sitting in a rib instructing, I always get the feeling that I wish I was on something with a sail.


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Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ -
Helensburgh S.C
http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine



Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 11 Sep 05 at 9:03am
I've sailed a lot of different 420s (our school fleet has 12 or so, and I've sailed them elsewhere as well!) and some have transom flaps, some have bung holes. Which company is yours made by and what sort of age is it? I've seen flaps on Lenams and Rondars about 5 years old, I think all the others have bungs instead. We don't tend to use the flaps much, on the Lenams they've been pulled off and have duck tape stuck over the back and the Rondars they tend to be taped shut. Most people moan that if they aren't they leak, but if you've got your trim sorted (you need to be well forward) then I've had no problems. If your trim's right the flaps will be clear of the water.


Posted By: scottishgem
Date Posted: 11 Sep 05 at 2:35pm

Its a Rondar and im guessing from the number about 95 build.. so 10yrs or so old prob. Ex UKSA boat so loads of dents but does the job for us fine!! We're prob on the heavy side for her, (combined weight 23 stone) but never mind, as it enables us to go out in fun stuff, as my man does the trapezing and i drive, his weight keeps her up and screaming along!! I do find that when she gets to limit speed she wavers about a bit.. no idea why. Great boat though, especially as we dont have the best sailing conditions here, and usually sail alone, she dosent seem that prone to capsize and there is plenty room for flares, vhf, snacks etc. And has the fun of a trapeze/spinnaker etc.

All we need to do now is work out how to be flying the spinny and trapez eat same time.... :0)



Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 15 Sep 05 at 11:08pm
Yeah I've sailed a few ex-UKSA boats! They're used by a couple of schools I've raced against. I've had problems before with 20 stone in the boat - just couldn't get the thing flat! Weren't using the trapeze though, not allowed to with team racing, which sucks! By limit speed do you mean hull speed, i.e. when you start planing?


Posted By: scottishgem
Date Posted: 23 Sep 05 at 6:03pm

Hmm, dont really know, just the speed it gets to when its really windy and 13 stone is as flat on the trapeze as he can get and im hiked out all the way and she still feels like she might capsize....

Can anyone give me advice about trailer weights???? We have a combi trailer and have been invited away with the students for a weekend (hurray!! a chance to be studenty again!! (not often to be had when you are a teacher!!!) and theyve asked us to bring a uni topper as well as our 420, so...

.... would a topper, a 420 and a combi trailer add up to more than 750kg??? (i got my licence after 1997 so thats the heaviest i can tow without doing a test)

 

Thanks

gem



Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 23 Sep 05 at 6:36pm
Without doing the maths I doubt you'd have a problem, and you can always roof-rack the topper if you have too

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