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Thanks for you comments and advice - the past is the past and can not be righted or changed, but lessons can be learned.

As regards the future  - would that the RYA executives would voluntarily meet us and we could make some progress here.  As they do not offer the courtesy of a reply to our various meetings requests ( they have ''noted'' our points and regard the matter as closed ) We have set up our website   www.nomoreRYAolympicboycotts.com and have had considerable press interest in working to drum up enough RYA and club member support so they will have to meet us and have to have a proper  debate about the rights of their future athletes. Over 400 votes on our petition have been cast by RYA members and club sailors who agree this needs change. We think we need more than this before we again press for a meeting which of course we can insist on with just 50 RYA member votes.  We do not want however to go that route - we want a voluntary meeting.
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I thought I would add an update here that shows the RAY attitude to this matter
We asked the RYA magazine for a half ppage of PAID space tp put our case to the members, as we have not been allowed to go and put our case and other issues to the council or even discuss it with the executive.
 
They have censored our advert and will not allow it to be published  even though they have not even seen it yet.
 
We are RYA members and life long sailors and they want to silence our views because they do not agree with doing what most athletic bodies have done years ago- and given any boycott decision - other than of course boycott by law - to the athletes.
 
Shame on them?
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Hi Colin.

I understand your feelings about this, but I think as the F1 showed this weekend if there is a decision to be made I think it will go over our heads, and will be made by the BOA with pressure from the government.
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Originally posted by Colin Simonds

 
Shame on them?

no not really.  I can quite understand why from a communications perspective why they wouldn't allow advertising that could do more harm than good, especially for something they may see as a 'non issue'.



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You may be right about BOA  but for the record  in 1980 BOA offered to support us to go without the RYA money and blessing if the RYA would confrim to them in writing that we/others  were the selected boats, but despite winning the trials the RYA refused to write that letter and confirm any selection.
Yes the RYA who are primarily a cruising association with no experienced top racing people on the council see I fear Racing as a whole as a sub issue at best
Of course if we call an EGM they will have to send out our circular and proposed agenda and motions to all members, so I wonder if they now are pushing us into this.  60-40  they would win a vote - but at least it gets the case aired properly
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rogue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 2:31pm
I think you should do what needs to be done to call the EGM- that is the official process for airing your grievances.  However if you already acknowledge you are likely to lose, really what is the point?

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I am in no hurry on this call- and times and people change
If we do an EGM it will likely be a  ''once'' event ( unless  they make the result undemocratic eg mail the membership with their views and pleas asking for support, and do not allow us equal access - censoring our advert is  state of this - but there are other rags we can use that many member read)  Personally  I would not call one without the support of most or all the 1980 ''team'' and as  a last resort.  There are motions we can put that we will or should win and some that will be harder  - we need and have easily the 50 members to require an EGM - we are close to 500 votes on our web site.
 
Thanks for your interest and comments
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sargesail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 9:34pm
Go for the EGM or put up.  I'll now to be self-censoring on this issue.  It may only take 50 votes to get an EGM, but 500 is still a drop in the ocean of RYA membership.

I value the RYA's ability to take a stand, do not wish it to spend political capital by not complying with a boycott if asked and deplore your timing which could be a distraction from the business at hand - the Olympic Games.

And I also see this as a classic case of the influence of a vocal minority having the potential to have an excessive impact, as a result of its ability to draw on modern media......but perhaps I shouldn't worry.......500 just isn't very many, and illustrates that this is not really grabbing attention.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 10:40pm
If voting papers are sent out, I can see most members being utterly apathetic on the matter- so if you're able to mobilise enough support within the membership, it may well be that a majority of returned papers could come down in your favour.
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There is no intention or plan to call an EGM until the games are over if at all  - I agree - to have one in the lead up to or during the Olympics would be poor timing- in fact as yet we hope an EGM will not be necessary. 
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