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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 996 |
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Great stuff.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2509 |
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that black one looks stunning!
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Online Posts: 3281 |
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Wow, they look fast just being on display.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8953 |
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They are obviously too hard for me to jump on and sail without practice, so should be banned. Thought I'd get there before grumph.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6602 |
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I reckon the new boats are getting on for as fast as an AC (old design canoe with added 20-23m2 kite). Mind you spinnakers make far less difference than most people think. Probably (and very roughly) around 5% faster round the track.
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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From my analysis, I reckon it's closer to a 3% difference made by spinnakers, more if they make the difference between planing and not planing on the day, but that's already huge by the margins among top boats.
For me the question would be, is the performance gain worth the increase in difficulty/loss of mass appeal? I felt the Moths went down that path (before they found foiling, and even then...) - they'd have been better off adapting the rules (more sail area) to favour the scows which being stable can be sailed by almost any competent sailor.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6602 |
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Ah, bad phrasing. I meant the new ICs are probably about 5% faster round the track.
I haven't sat down and done the sums, but an awful lot of new boats have been built recently (well, an awful lot by high end custom boat standards anyway). And in any case the mass market appeal of the IC approaches zero... Edited by JimC - 16 Aug 17 at 11:29pm |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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That's what I thought you meant! |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6491 |
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Are they? Funny they never struck me as being 'impossible' to get into and go, I always fancied one particularly after one demonstrated a stunning performance at one of the Round Isle of Sheppy events, but getting any sensible information about them always eluded me,.I think they have a very acute early warning radar system that keeps potential idiots from getting to know anything about them, it's sort of sailing equivalent of masonry I'm fairly sure they all wear aprons and roll their trouser legs up in secret before every regatta. Which does beg the question how a well known poster from here ever hitched up her skirts onto one. ![]() |
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Presuming Ed ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641 |
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTERNATIONAL-CANOE-SAILING-DINGHY/232442402037?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45730%26meid%3Dc398dadb32f1427594a7b1383ae03bc0%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D162630064008&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
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