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that black one looks stunning!
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Wow, they look fast just being on display.
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They are obviously too hard for me to jump on and sail without practice, so should be banned. Thought I'd get there before grumph.

Just how quick are they now compared to the Nethercott?
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I reckon the new boats are getting on for as fast as an AC (old design canoe with added 20-23m2 kite). Mind you spinnakers make far less difference than most people think. Probably (and very roughly) around 5% faster round the track.
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From my analysis, I reckon it's closer to a 3% difference made by spinnakers, more if they make the difference between planing and not planing on the day, but that's already huge by the margins among top boats.

For me the question would be, is the performance gain worth the increase in difficulty/loss of mass appeal? I felt the Moths went down that path (before they found foiling, and even then...) - they'd have been better off adapting the rules (more sail area) to favour the scows which being stable can be sailed by almost any competent sailor.
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Ah, bad phrasing. I meant the new ICs are probably about 5% faster round the track.

I haven't sat down and done the sums, but an awful lot of new boats have been built recently (well, an awful lot by high end custom boat standards anyway). And in any case the mass market appeal of the IC approaches zero...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Aug 17 at 9:04am
Originally posted by JimC

Ah, bad phrasing. I meant the new ICs are probably about 5% faster round the track.

That's what I thought you meant!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Aug 17 at 9:18am
Originally posted by Rupert

They are obviously too hard for me to jump on and sail without practice, so should be banned. Thought I'd get there before grumph.


Are they? Funny they never struck me as being 'impossible' to get into and go, I always fancied one particularly after one demonstrated a stunning performance at one of the Round Isle of Sheppy events, but getting any sensible information about them always eluded me,.I think they have a very acute early warning radar system that keeps potential idiots from getting to know anything about them, it's sort of sailing equivalent of masonry I'm fairly sure they all wear aprons and roll their trouser legs up in secret before every regatta.

Which does beg the question how a well known poster from here ever hitched up her skirts onto one.
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