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I guess with the Europeans not growing up with skiffs (as us Aussies know them) They have a different view of what a skiff is.

For me, a skiff is not a design but a boat (when it comes to sail powered skiffs)

As Chris pointed out, a die hard Skiffie would be insulted if you called a B14, 29er, 49er ect a skiff........  In OZ (home of the skiff) anyway

 

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Having thought about what constitutes a skiff it is more a type of boat rather than a concrete definition.

The following criteria comes to mind

1. Freedom of design - the less rules the better

2. Freedom of rigs

3. Use of the latest technology - carbon etc

4. A challenge to sail

5. Significant speed advantage of similar length boats.

So some boats may fit the definition when they are built but after a few years fall behind.
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That basically writes off any one design class then...how does it fit with the 16's and 18's having one design hulls?
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Originally posted by jimmywalsh2

Having thought about what constitutes a skiff it is more a type of boat rather than a concrete definition. The following criteria comes to mind

1. Freedom of design - the less rules the better

2. Freedom of rigs

3. Use of the latest technology - carbon etc

4. A challenge to sail

5. Significant speed advantage of similar length boats.

That could be a keelboat. Open 60? Mini-Transat?

 
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..........even some cats, ORMA 60 trimarans?

It seems as though we are struggling to define "skiff" in the UK simply because the word has been over-used to describe any modern lighweight, low freeboard planing dinghy. The manufacturers have been quick to encourage this because "skiff" has become a buzz word for something modern and sexy, the lastest "must have".

Aussie skiffs are something a lot more specific. In Australia the term excludes all kinds of modern machinery that we would loosely term as a skiff.

I guess Tornado_ALIVE has hit it on the head.

 

 
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