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    Posted: 14 Jan 07 at 11:41pm

We turtled the 9er today out in plymouth, and were having real issues righting it, the whole thing ended with me being taken to hospital in a ambulance with mild hyperthermia and concussion!! Our main problem was that when we did eventually right it, by the time we scrambled aboad, the rig powered up and we went swimming again! this process wen on for about a hour. anyone got any suggestions, as i dont want 2 spend another day in Derreford hospital tryin to gain feeling in my arms and legs!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 12:07am
That makes BBSC Faithfull's little mishap today pale into insignificance...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CurlyBen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 12:35am
I've only sailed the 49er once but I found with the 800 it helped to have one person hanging on near the front so the boat tries to lie head to wind while the other one gets in quick and is then able to help balance the boat again. Getting back in over the stern was possible but you had to be quick if it was breezy to avoid the boat bearing away too quickly. Were you both trying to get in simultaneously?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 9:39am
Trick is not to capsize owain you big wetty,  If you had the kite up it would of been more stable downhill.  I also cant beleve you got hyperthermia with all that hair!!!!
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I found a similar issue with the 29er, the main thing is to get the thing head to wind.  But it can also help to have someone on the other side holding onto the trapeze handle to pull it back down as it comes up and starts to go over the pther side.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kasey3000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 1:39pm

Owain, its Dennis on Kita's account, we've got a method pretty much like the scoop method when we capsize the boat. From total inversion, best to pop the wing up and let the wind get under it to lift the boat back on its side. Kita then swims round and is scooped in the boat when I right it from the board. Saves so much time, will explain to you and Chris the way we do it better the next time we see you. We've used the method when its been blowing above 25knots with no difficulties, although you do have to be quick jumping over the gunwhales from the board.

Hope you're feeling better now. We're sailing in our dry-suits for the next while as I did the same thing as you when I had the 5000.

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Owain, If you have enough weight to scoop, then follow dennis's instructions. If not, or if you have a lot of tide holding submerged wing under, then get both of you on the board. As the boat comes upright get your crew to step over the gunwhale and run between the mast and the jib leech to balance the boat. If you've brought it up too quick then they may need to run through to the other side and hang onto the shroud. If your quick you can follow into the boat, or if your slow haul yourself in over the wing as it hits the water and get your crew to balance the boat. The only time I ever had a big problem righting her was when I snapped the top mast and came up quicker than I expected !!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 6:21pm
ye our main problem was that we would run across the boat between the mast and the jib, but by the time we got across, it was to late, the swell didnt really help either.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Worthy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 6:46pm
Only sailed a 49er once, and that was in light winds so not sure if this will work or not....

Are you able to use the classic RYA 'scoop' method where the helm rights the boat from half way while the crew is lying in the boat waiting for it to go upright?  Then the crew is able to steady the boat while the help gets on?

Edit:  Sorry Kasey, didn't read your post first


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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 8:47pm
Right the boat with crew or helm submerged by a wing and then right the boat with them on it and then get them to climb up. Meanwhile you get in by the mast and BNS atleast our mast is still in one piece! 
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