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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 06 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by Matt Jackson

Contender, don't forget the Contender. At 83kg hull weight it would be interesting to see what difference it would make to shave/hack off a few kg.


The Contender prototype was around 50kg...
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do the width of moth wings vary? (the boat ones)
is there a limit on the width?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 06 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by Prince Buster

do the width of moth wings vary? (the boat ones)
is there a limit on the width?





http://www.moth-sailing.org/download/IMCA_Rules06.pdf
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Post Options Post Options   Quote redback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 06 at 10:20pm

I don't think this is the first time I've said this but all that lead in a 4000 seems out of place in a high performance boat.

The 4000 is one boat that could move up a gear without out-dating the any of the boats.  How - by rewriting the equalisation tables.  I don't regard myself as a heavy person at just under 90kg and 5 foot 11, but I can only sail with the rack out 2 clicks and I have to carry a large lump of lead in the middle of the boat.

I'd like to race with the rack out a bit and discard the lead.  Give the light weight crews even more rack if they need it not more weight to drag up the ramp at the end of the day.

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As Elvstrom said:

The only place for weight is in a steamroller

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Originally posted by sargesail

As Elvstrom said:

Uffa Fox said it first...

It would be an interesting exercise for one of the weight equalised classes to throw the rule book our for one event and have everyon race with no lead and max wing, and see if
a) they like the boat better that way and

b)it makes any great change to the results fcompared to the formbook.
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Believe both L5000 and Blaze threw out weight equalisation some time ago, L5000 woes have been well covered elsewhere and the Blaze pro's and cons were thoroughly addressed in the RS300 vs Blaze thread a while back

.... I suggested the hiking wings as an addition to the N12 custom because I think it gives a lower 'entry point' to the class and differentiates it from a 12ft skiff which are great, but mental, in their own right...

Just thought of another one ripe for some serious weight reduction - Javelin, a carbon rig and some serious weight hack off would make these even more lethal on handicap than they are now - shame there's so few of them around
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Originally posted by getafix

Believe both L5000 and Blaze threw out weight equalisation some time ago, L5000 woes have been well covered elsewhere and the Blaze pro's and cons were thoroughly addressed in the RS300 vs Blaze thread a while back

As far as I know the Laser 5000 still has the same weight equilisation it always had, the only difference being you can now weigh in in normal clothes not sailing gear.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote bovlike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 06 at 7:35pm

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Boats that could be built super light using modern materials versus their original weight vs power ratio: Osprey, Hornet, Fireball, 505, Solo(!), Blaze X, ISO, Buzz, Boss, L5000, L4000, L2000, RS400, RS200 ... you could go on a long time

 

you would have a bit on making a 505 lighter is is made from carbon!! but know what you mean about the others.

 

 

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