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Under the heading of planned but never undertaken.

Take one 1960s Hornet, remove unnecesary wood (all but the 4 planks that make form the hull form ). Add shallow double skin and space frame. Thrash living $&! out of it.

Sadly, I had more in the way of ideas than garage space and cash at the time so took the second most exciting option and sacrificed it to god of hellfire instead!

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Boats that could be built super light using modern materials versus their original weight vs power ratio: Osprey, Hornet, Fireball, 505, Solo(!), Blaze X, ISO, Buzz, Boss, L5000, L4000, L2000, RS400, RS200 ... you could go on a long time

One boat I always thought was right for a bit of garage customisation was the N12, now if you took a bigger stick, higher aspect upwind sails (think i14/49er) and big assy plus added nice wide hiking racks (B14 style) then I think you might be on a winner, have to go for a shute for the kite so perhaps a foredeck-less design might be best 'donor' to start with (no way would you want to get as far forward as a bag for launching!)

T-foil rudder might help in the nose dive/pitching dept and would probably need to bond in some foam bouyancy as dodging the bags as you run across rack-to-rack might be a bit of an obstacle course.  May as well go for a dagger bd as well for good measure.

Basically a big rig, 12ft, lightweight B14 with raking rig......
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Why bother...you can pick up a great B14 for a very resonable price and go sailing. Great deals on the web site....!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote foaminatthedeck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 06 at 12:48pm

Why bother...you can pick up a great B14 for a very resonable price and go sailing. Great deals on the web site....!! (don't know how to quote things so just cut and pasted from one abve)

Because to do it would be cool, not senable maybe but cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ps if someone has garage space in plymouth out wants to pay for bits ill do it to my national



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Originally posted by getafix

Boats that could be built super light using modern materials versus their original weight vs power ratio: Osprey, Hornet, Fireball, 505, Solo(!), Blaze X, ISO, Buzz, Boss, L5000, L4000, L2000, RS400, RS200 ... you could go on a long time

Contender, don't forget the Contender. At 83kg hull weight it would be interesting to see what difference it would make to shave/hack off a few kg. Of course we're a much more conservative fleet than the boat would suggest so it'll never happen.

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Im not touching the contender I like it to much. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 06 at 1:03pm

What's your Contender made of? Wood? Nothing much to shave there...

Still, it would be great if the hull could drop a bit of weight. At 83 kgs (recommended, without the obligatory water in the hull), it weighs almost 25 kgs more than me. The other day, I was left struggling on the beach, trying desperately to get the boat across a patch of soft shingle, most to the delight of all the guys sitting on the start line.
I wonder what difference it would make in the handling; I know I'd like it!

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Originally posted by getafix



One boat I always thought was right for a bit of garage customisation
was the N12, now if you took a bigger stick, higher aspect upwind sails
(think i14/49er) and big assy plus added nice wide hiking racks (B14
style) then I think you might be on a winner, have to go for a shute
for the kite so perhaps a foredeck-less design might be best 'donor' to
start with (no way would you want to get as far forward as a bag for
launching!)

T-foil rudder might help in the nose dive/pitching dept and would
probably need to bond in some foam bouyancy as dodging the bags as
you run across rack-to-rack might be a bit of an obstacle course. May
as well go for a dagger bd as well for good measure.

Basically a big rig, 12ft, lightweight B14 with raking rig......




Errr.... sort of like this then?

http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/test/lib/exe/detail.php/ boats/
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Post Options Post Options   Quote foaminatthedeck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 06 at 1:09pm
last time i looked cherubs a twin trapez not hikeing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 06 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by foaminatthedeck

last time i looked cherubs a twin trapez not
hikeing.


I said sort of.

Funny though as I am about to get going on a Cherub with adjustable
racks for hiking as well as single trap and double. Which should be fun.
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