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I am lucky enough to sail on a pond as well as on an estuary but my dream would be to sail on the sea as often as I could and I regularly drive for hours to go to opens on the sea. Sometimes when the forecast is looking light at the pond I pack up the boat and head to Warsash so I can go enjoy the sea breeze. Would always choose the sea over a pond.
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Originally posted by 423zero

My first trip out to sea was from Lowestoft, what a disaster, we were supposed to be sailing to Peterhead, we left on the tail end of a big storm, so the sea was still rough (this was late seventies). Left river mouth, turned up north, we were met by waves the size of vans, not breaking though, but we were repeatedly dropping off the top into the following wave. From leaving the side Skipper was repeatedly banging the top of the radar and muttering to himself. Then a fog bang rolled in, Skipper then found out the radio decided it had had enough. No option but to turn back, that was a laugh. We were all desperate not to hear the bell from the beach . Two hours after leaving we were back tied up.    
Edited to add, it was Great Yarmouth, (Lowestoft was later).


That's another side of coastal clubs, relatively few are pure 'dinghy racing' clubs.
Which means often the main aim of the club is accommodating yachts ashore in the winter and dinghy racing is a sideline or 'for the kids'. There is a whole spectrum of this and each club is unique (?)
The positive side of that is that you can have opportunities to race bigger boats, hitch a ride to France, meet a wider range of watersports people etc.
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Plus, dare we mention, motorboats, which have their place… for actually getting somewhere in a reasonable timeframe
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Many of the  inland clubs on the Norfolk broads are Dinghy, Keelboat and Yacht. As are some in the lakes district and in the Scottish inland Lochs

Yesterday we had all three out on the same stretch of river at the same time.
 Sometimes there are trophies that apply to all three types of boat and you could have a dinghy or  40ft sailing cruiser and anything in between going for the same trophy..
Oh and I've a motorboat moored at the same club as well


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My personal preference is the open sea. Big waves, Big summer sea breezes and an empty horizon (in one direction at least).

There are more issues with the PY system on the sea unfortunately as the majority returns come from inland venues. A fantastically sailed topper will loose to  an average or poor  team in a 400 (or even a Laser). Tide cripples the slower boats in the vast majority of cases The stronger the tide the worse it gets. I suppose most choose a boat that suits their venue but the skewed returns create some outright bandits ( as opposed to slight banditry) at tidal locations. Dodgy PY's exist for other reasons of course but the tidal effect is one of biggest contributors to the problem.

Electrolysis is a bugger too.


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Originally posted by eric_c

 
That's another side of coastal clubs, relatively few are pure 'dinghy racing' clubs.
Which means often the main aim of the club is accommodating yachts ashore in the winter and dinghy racing is a sideline or 'for the kids'. There is a whole spectrum of this and each club is unique (?)
The positive side of that is that you can have opportunities to race bigger boats, hitch a ride to France, meet a wider range of watersports people etc.

Good point but not sure about "relatively few". The vast majority of coastal clubs I visit for open meetings are pure dinghy clubs. Perhaps that's a cause-effect inversion. ut back to my River Itchen to Portsmouth club-count, most of those are dinghy/cat-only, no floating caravans.

But go to the IoW and it seems they're virtually all floating-caravan clubs. Yachts need some form of harbour for weather protection. Dinghies don't.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote fab100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 22 at 11:48am
Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Dodgy PY's exist for other reasons of course but the tidal effect is one of biggest contributors to the problem.


Please don't. 

Two laws of internet discussion, Godwin's Law and iGRF's Law. Please can we not go down that accursed rabbit whole again - it's all been said, ad infinitum.
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Originally posted by fab100

Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Dodgy PY's exist for other reasons of course but the tidal effect is one of biggest contributors to the problem.


Please don't. 

Two laws of internet discussion, Godwin's Law and iGRF's Law. Please can we not go down that accursed rabbit whole again - it's all been said, ad infinitum.


I am aware of that but sorry fab, I'm not a newbie to this forum or sailing anymore. I shall keep mentioning it until I pop my clogs, give up sailing or the PY system gets more investment. Wink .......it's called the dripping tap technique. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 22 at 12:00pm
Don't think it will wake him up, he must have long covid he was being very sensible last time he was on.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 22 at 12:16pm
For those of you giving Greta arse-ache by travelling to open meetings when there's a perfectly good puddle to sail on 30 minutes from home, does the WindGuru Effect still determine numbers?
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