Originally posted by Do Different Sailing or Racing. Strikes me more than ever two distinctly different activities possibly attracting completely different mind sets and ambitions. What are you trying to sell, a sport or a pleasant in quite often relaxing pastime locations. Who are selling it to, competitive "Strava time" types or the mindfulness and well being set?

Yes Sam of course it offers both and it sounds to me as if you also embrace both.

Edited by Do Different - 17 May 22 at 6:01am

Originally posted by turnturtle Originally posted by Do Different ]Maybe sailing is simply not cool.  No one had to drink their own puke with their cock in a sock to join the sailing club ….

......ah, yes that old routine. So many memories

Each organisation has it's own hidden or not so hidden agenda. Many participants in sports clubs require that people "Grow a pair" or "Man up". 

I don't think sailing is special in the great scheme of things. It might be special to you and I but most people have their own special things.

Teaching self reliance was mentioned?
The kids I grew up with in the 60's learned that elsewhere. 

When it comes to human requirements (or needs) most of the things that sailing clubs provide can be learned, acquired or practised elsewhere. The difference with sailing and some other sports is that they can provide, in one place so many of those things. Other folk may have to hunt around in several different places to satisfy those requirements. A bit of Structure here, some socialising there, mental stimulation somewhere else, health and fitness requirements somewhere completely different.

We all have a need to fit in, to belong. We will all compromise our own individual needs to some degree to fit in. The degree to which some folk will go in order to fit in is really quite shocking. I personally will not stick my cock in a sock......so don't ask.

The one shop idea sounds great but it does tend to promote like mindedness and attract folk that prefer a lot of structure. This is true of most organisations that coincidentally cater for these things. Some people don't need as much structure or they get the need met elsewhere and may go windsurfing.

Diversity begins here. We all have basic human needs and we also have individual preferences in how we get those requirements met.


A long winded way of saying horses for courses.

What is your club supplying? 

Edited by Sussex Lad - 17 May 22 at 11:09am

Sussex lad, what do you think the problem is? I am finding your posts increasingly hard to follow,this must be how being excluded feels, enlighten us non university types.

Originally posted by Sussex Lad This worth a thread all of it's own.

Diversity and lack of it