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    Posted: 18 Apr 22 at 7:31pm
Saw a disassembled Laser at Draycote today. It seemed like it had a set of carbon mast tubes lying down on the hull. Seriously? Lasers now run carbon masts? Obvs Iím out of touch.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 22 at 7:47pm
Was it a Laser or a ILCA ?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote boatshed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 22 at 8:19pm
Looked just like a Laser has always looked.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 22 at 8:30pm
You are behind the times new legal Lasers are now called ILCA, Lasers still ILCA legal, but, Lasers made by laser are not legal. Edited to add Lasers built by laser after a certain number are not legal.

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To get back to the OP's question, yes, there are class legal part carbon Laser/ILCA spars. They are supposed to perform exactly the same way as the tin ones, but to be much less prone/unable to bend permanently under the horrendous loads people put on them with the revised kicker etc. The word on the street seems to be that the performance is as close as could be expected, but because the top end of the fleet was bending so many tin spars they are mostly using plastic ones.

The Laser ILCA thing is complicated legal stuff. To simplify "Laser Performance" are not an official builder of the class/classes administered by the International Laser Class Association, but the several companies who are current official builders are not legally allowed to use the word "Laser" to sell boats, so "ILCA" is used instead. If you want the detail there's a huge thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 22 at 9:09pm
https://images.app.goo.gl/aVUVv6UHJHGFqRbv7.        It's comparable to this
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I think you will find itís only the top section thatís a carbon/ glass composite with the full rig/ILCA 7. The lower section and the boom is still aliminium . Not sure about the radial/ILCA 6 though. Think they have or are planning to a carbon/glass bottom section . 
Think the top section has been class legal for a couple of years. 
Were you sailing at Draycote today ? , the pursuit race looked like fun . My wife and I thought the 505 was going to win today .  Smile


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Post Options Post Options   Quote andymck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 22 at 10:43pm
The radial or ILCA 6 has the option of a carbon bottom section.
Once they got the top sections sorted, the bottom sections started breaking.
They are however not cheap. Last time I checked double an aero mast and that has a track
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Post Options Post Options   Quote boatshed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 22 at 7:33am
Originally posted by JimC

To get back to the OP's question, yes, there are class legal part carbon Laser/ILCA spars. They are supposed to perform exactly the same way as the tin ones, but to be much less prone/unable to bend permanently under the horrendous loads people put on them with the revised kicker etc. The word on the street seems to be that the performance is as close as could be expected, but because the top end of the fleet was bending so many tin spars they are mostly using plastic ones.

The Laser ILCA thing is complicated legal stuff. To simplify "Laser Performance" are not an official builder of the class/classes administered by the International Laser Class Association, but the several companies who are current official builders are not legally allowed to use the word "Laser" to sell boats, so "ILCA" is used instead. If you want the detail there's a huge thread.


Thks. Kafkaesque. Did the PY number decrease to reflect a better mast?
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No, number is slower year on year.
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