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In my thirty years of sailing of sailing I have been a member of four clubs . Warwick sc , redditch sc , shustoke sc and Leamington spa sailing club. None have done class starts as such, but some have taken class results out of handicap resuilts. Three of these clubs have raced mostly pursuits which makes the races easier to run for the duty crew and makes it easier to get class results out of the overall results.†


If memory serves me right, Class racing died at Leamington Spa by the end of the 70s early 80s ( and even then was only ever part of what we did) and we have never looked back.

Personally, I would prefer to race against everyone in the Club, and not just a few who sail my preferred weapon of choice....but each to their own.
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At Chew Valley there are class starts for Laser, Solo and Fifteens, and handicap racing for anything else, which usually involves a good number of 200s and, more recently, 100s too.  
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In my thirty years of sailing of sailing I have been a member of four clubs . Warwick sc , redditch sc , shustoke sc and Leamington spa sailing club. None have done class starts as such, but some have taken class results out of handicap resuilts. Three of these clubs have raced mostly pursuits which makes the races easier to run for the duty crew and makes it easier to get class results out of the overall results. 


If memory serves me right, Class racing died at Leamington Spa by the end of the 70s early 80s ( and even then was only ever part of what we did) and we have never looked back.

Personally, I would prefer to race against everyone in the Club, and not just a few who sail my preferred weapon of choice....but each to their own.

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The upside of class racing at club level is that you are, obviously, all sailing the same boat, the downside is small fleet sizes and, often, an established hierarchy with the same couple of people winning most of the time. Hard to beat class racing in a decent size fleet though.
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I have searched a couple of class racing clubs, such as Looe for instance, they have four classes, Red wings (which was designed specifically for them), Enterprise etc. Some other class only clubs have mixed class races, but only with the allowed clubs classes , other clubs with large single class fleets, also have large handicap fleets of any class, handicap clubs are the most numerous by a very large percentage.

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i think waldringfield is only class starts, they added the RS200 a few years back as it was switched to from lark sailors...
i don't think they have any handicap racing apart from yachts...
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Wembley SC is another that does NOT have a handicap fleet so I think that makes 3 clubs so far listed in this thread!
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What about european clubs?
Mostly seen class racing over there.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

The upside of class racing at club level is that you are, obviously, all sailing the same boat, the downside is small fleet sizes and, often, an established hierarchy with the same couple of people winning most of the time. Hard to beat class racing in a decent size fleet though.


which is why  running  a personal handicap series  in parallel with any handicap series  is good - as it usually means the most improved  sailors  get soem of the silverware   -   there are other   things you can do - but the rise of the single hander   vs  2 person boats means  having a series  which is designed to encourage  crews to helm  and vice versa is less ofa thing than  it one might have been 
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While anticipating that this will simply become (another) PY-bashing thread, I believe Itchenor SC, HISC and maybe Stokes Bay or Netley offer class starts for some of their more popular, with Itchenor having supported classes (i.e. discouraging membership from all but those) ... but it is some time since I looked.  In areas with lots of clubs, which is quite a few places on the south coast, it makes sense for some clubs to have limited classes, there is always choice then; go to those if you want OD racing or go to the others if you don't.
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