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My experience is that dinghies start to plane around 8 knots and are planing by10 knots, 12 knots feels fast. Windsurfers actually start to plane at very similar speeds* but go much faster with 25 knots being pretty achievable for an average bod like me with 28/29 knots being a bit like the 16 knot barrier TT mentions in a dinghy, passing that requires a change in technique and courage.

* As, surprisingly, does my RIB.


Edited by Sam.Spoons - 06 Jan 22 at 11:07am
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Aero 7 seems to be becoming the dominant sail size, good turn of speed.
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Those Aero's are bloody quick offwind in a blow, I was maxed on the wire in my Farr 3.7 and an Aero 7 came past me like I was stood still.

As to what the OP is looking for, join the queue, an actual factual performance list not perverted by the prevarications and gerrymandering of the illuminati on the pyag is long overdue.
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Needs a spreadsheet of speeds obtained from various windspeeds, upwind, downwind. etc.
No idea what use it would be though ? Handicap racing would be governed by PY anyway. you could have the fastest dinghy in the world but still be beaten by a Topper.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Needs a spreadsheet of speeds obtained from various windspeeds, upwind, downwind. etc.
No idea what use it would be though ? Handicap racing would be governed by PY anyway. you could have the fastest dinghy in the world but still be beaten by a Topper.
RYA publishes a number of such spreadsheets to help race officers set courses that achieve a given target race time - see: http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/running-racing/speed-charts
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I’ve had the fastest craft in the race* on one RTC Wednesday - Kona Carbone windsurf board.

Clocked over 30 knots once on that bad boy with a 7.8 double cam freerace sail - I’d like to see a 49er get anywhere near that on paper.

Why then did Laser Radials beat me over the water?

1) I’m not that good
2) it was not planing conditions
3) some one put a proper beat in the course
4) top speed is a redundant in benchmarking disparate craft

PY - best you’re gonna get. If you don’t value it, don’t do it anymore. I don’t.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

I’ve had the fastest craft in the race* on one RTC Wednesday - Kona Carbone windsurf board.

Clocked over 30 knots once on that bad boy with a 7.8 double cam freerace sail - I’d like to see a 49er get anywhere near that on paper.

Why then did Laser Radials beat me over the water?

1) I’m not that good
2) it was not planing conditions
3) some one put a proper beat in the course


(* straight line speed, reaching)

Your mistake was bringing a knife to a gunfight, you should have used a 'proper' Raceboard  Smile


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Originally posted by turnturtle

My fastest ever recorded top speed using a Garmin on a dinghy was 18.2 knots on a Musto Skiff.

It took ages to push over the 16 knot barrier for me personally, but 20+ is achievable if you really know what you are doing.

The fasted I felt I ever went on a dinghy was a little over 14 knots on an RS300!

Speed is relative - given most sailing (in the UK at least) is sub-planning, I'd say glide and momentum brings a greater sense of satisfaction than all out speed.

Lol, I recall 20 knots being much less scary in my Musto than 14 knots in the 300… that was bum twitching time for sure
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(not me) RS Aero - 23.9 knots
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