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    Posted: 10 Jan 22 at 6:30pm
We have foily things all over Carsington. Foiling boards now as common as non foilers, inflatable kite things, wazps and the odd moth. None really appeal .. the foiling boards are only faster in medium wind conditions, the kite foilers very slow and quite unweildy ( though there is one young woman who can do it and makes it look fun ). The foiling dinghies are very quick ( when upright) but go along so smoothly there is none of the splash, bounce and drama you get from a planing dinghy ( or conventional wind surfer ), though gybing looks fun. I've never clocked either of my boats at more than 13knots but blow me, a 130kg Javelin, planing flat out in a force 6 with half the boat out the water feels very fast indeed ( and rather dangerous due to the forces involved ) I doubt you get that on a kite foiler .. maybe in big waves?
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Thanks to the current Committee we now have a bigger and better log burner. 
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Our Windsurfer instructor is also sharing his interest in foiling boards. We have a member with one of those free inflatable wing foiling setups. 
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Originally posted by Do Different

Absolutely iGRF. For me, it's about the sailing, sensation of speed and quite often in company fun shared is fun doubled. 

Cats would be faster than both my boats but for me they hold no appeal, there are "easy" foilers appearing which are faster still and appeal even less.



100% - close racing regardless of speed is far more appealing. Some of my most enjoyable sailing has been in a 17ft 1906 local one design with a lot of pig iron in the bottom. They all just reached hull speed and that was it but great racing. Raced ICs and the room for error is minimal so easy to get spat out the back and stay there. Cats I find boring and thought I’d like to have an afternoon on a foiler not much appeal. Not seen an entry foiler that can perform upwind in a range of conditions. Boards and that inflatable wing look OK. 
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Thanks I’ve be racking my brain for months. Fantastic club, especially the log burner 
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Absolutely iGRF. For me, it's about the sailing, sensation of speed and quite often in company fun shared is fun doubled. 

Cats would be faster than both my boats but for me they hold no appeal, there are "easy" foilers appearing which are faster still and appeal even less.


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iGRF. I know it goes against the popular grain but two person boats are (in my opinion) the best route to easy speed. 

The reason sailing dinghys took my leisure time over, was two person boats, I miss it to this day. But I have learned so much more after being forced to single hand.

Eventually I shall be forced to back end something, hopefully with a grandchild up the other end, something to look forward to still, but it will be a while before we chase top end speeds and quite honestly boats aint really the place to do it. It's nice to know how fast you went, but ultimate speed is about having the most power with the least wetted surface.
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Originally posted by Do Different

Exactly as we do for Club speed league.

We have a circle of 12 marks of 900 metres dia. Pick your angle and time yourself between the two opposites. We then calculate both adjusted and real, alright the circle may not always be spot on but come on, it's a bit fun for windy days.



What club is that, I have visited a club with that set up and can’t remember which one it was 
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iGRF. I know it goes against the popular grain but two person boats are (in my opinion) the best route to easy speed. 
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Exactly as we do for Club speed league.

We have a circle of 12 marks of 900 metres dia. Pick your angle and time yourself between the two opposites. We then calculate both adjusted and real, alright the circle may not always be spot on but come on, it's a bit fun for windy days.


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