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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 21 at 7:56pm
Doesn't help with original question, (caravan club doesn't give a definitive answer, usually on top of this sort of thing) think best answer is to ask your breakdown service, AA, RAC etc, they have experts.
If you build your own trailer, boat or box, you are supposed to take it for a IVA test, trailers come under single use vehicles, if you go on you.gov it tells you what inspector will check and the top ten fails, you have to have permanent lights fitted to boat trailer without boat on, presumably this is where the lighting board regulations come in which states you may attach light board to load, ie, if with boat on trailer fixed lights are more than a metre from furthest aft section of load.
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Originally posted by 423zero

If you build your own trailer, boat or box, you are supposed to take it for a IVA test, trailers come under single use vehicles, if you go on you.gov it tells you what inspector will check and the top ten fails, you have to have permanent lights fitted to boat trailer without boat on, presumably this is where the lighting board regulations come in which states you may attach light board to load, ie, if with boat on trailer fixed lights are more than a metre from furthest aft section of load.

Bizarrely Im pretty sure thats wrong too, its only trailers offer for sale to the public.
And manufacturer's can't just send an example, or three examples, or submit to random inspections. Every trailer they make has to be certified. But I can make one in my garage for my use.......


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Grumpycat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 21 at 10:47am
Err no you are wrong . Manufacturers have to have type approval. 

If you build a trailer in your garage for your own use it HAS to have IVA test before you can use it on the road.

A simple google search proves this from multiple sources . 


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Less than 1 m  overhang, past lighting, no additional requirements needed.
1 to 2 m if you have an overhanging load, no requirements other than it must be visible, ie put a flag on the tail of your mast, / boat .
In excess of 2m but less than 3m, You can put a warning triangle on the load which requires lighting at night
Above 3m you need to notify the police.. they will probably require an escort vehicle
Thems the UK rules, I ain't got no idea about them foreigners I ain't a goin'

Although my trailer predates these regs, I'm making a new lighting board to the new regs but it will be mounted on the trailer, and since the overhang is about 2m maybe a little more I'm also making a warning triangle.. 
 The fun being as my boat is towed stern first, the mounting of the warning triangle is interesting.. 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote NickA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 22 at 7:23pm
So, nearly 6 years since the referendum and over a year since we finally left the EU, still no-one knows how to take a boat abroad on holiday.

Is the country being run by f**kwits perchance?

Probably going to skip the euros this year rather than risk my boat being impounded. That and the P&O ferry to Holland.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NickA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 22 at 7:39pm
But that's for the UK. It's travelling to mainland Europe that's the issue.

It used to be that as an EU member, EU countries had to accept our trailer regs and couldn't charge us duties or VAT on the transport of goods.

Post brexit, we lost those freedoms.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Grumpycat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 22 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by NickA

So, nearly 6 years since the referendum and over a year since we finally left the EU, still no-one knows how to take a boat abroad on holiday.

Is the country being run by f**kwits perchance?
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It was f**kwit idea, fronted by f**kwits and we then gave those same f**kwits a overwhelming majority in parliament. So the simple answer is YES  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NickA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 22 at 7:17am
Well, still little clarity. Off to the Javelin euros anyway. My Dutch friends say you can tow anything in Holland so long as it's not too heavy so taking a UK single stack trailer containing 1x Jav all our gear and a light board hung off the pintles.

There are rumours that if you take two boats you'll need an export / import carnet carnet for the boats to avoid paying vat on re-entry to the uk ( tbh, given the market value of my Jav, it would be cheaper to pay the VAT). A mate is taking a double stack so well test that out too.

All totally avoidable, but for the f***wits voting in f***wits
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sargesail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 22 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by NickA

Well, still little clarity. Off to the Javelin euros anyway. My Dutch friends say you can tow anything in Holland so long as it's not too heavy so taking a UK single stack trailer containing 1x Jav all our gear and a light board hung off the pintles.

There are rumours that if you take two boats you'll need an export / import carnet carnet for the boats to avoid paying vat on re-entry to the uk ( tbh, given the market value of my Jav, it would be cheaper to pay the VAT). A mate is taking a double stack so well test that out too.

All totally avoidable, but for the f***wits voting in f***wits


Where have you heard these rumours re two boats? When are your Euros? Id be keen to hear your friends experience as I have a two stack to take in and out to Europe. I have yet to hear of anyone who has actually had a problem with one boat or two.   I do know that the customs officials have laughed when a Carnet has been presented!
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Chit chat in the class association. Based on one boat being a personal belonging but two boat being an export/import. Euros are 23rd July. I'll report back.

Shortage of crews means that a mate and I are taking one boat between us whereas in previous years we'd be four in the car with a double stack in tow.

One fellow sailor has two boats and two growing sons though, so the family are bringing two boats with four sailors behind a massive camper van. It would be a VERY MEAN border control oik to suggest they were importing boats! I'm sure it will be fine without a carnet.

I use carnets for work and the main issue is getting border control to understand what it is you want them to sign. They really aren't set up for it or in expectation of having to deal with them.

But ... No faffing guidance from our useless government who told us it would all be fine. All suck it and see. I'll tell y'all how it pans out.
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