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    Posted: 02 Sep 21 at 10:47am
Err no you are wrong . Manufacturers have to have type approval. 

If you build a trailer in your garage for your own use it HAS to have IVA test before you can use it on the road.

A simple google search proves this from multiple sources . 


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Originally posted by 423zero

If you build your own trailer, boat or box, you are supposed to take it for a IVA test, trailers come under single use vehicles, if you go on you.gov it tells you what inspector will check and the top ten fails, you have to have permanent lights fitted to boat trailer without boat on, presumably this is where the lighting board regulations come in which states you may attach light board to load, ie, if with boat on trailer fixed lights are more than a metre from furthest aft section of load.

Bizarrely I’m pretty sure thats wrong too, its only trailers offer for sale to the public.
And manufacturer's can't just send an example, or three examples, or submit to random inspections. Every trailer they make has to be certified. But I can make one in my garage for  my use.......


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Doesn't help with original question, (caravan club doesn't give a definitive answer, usually on top of this sort of thing) think best answer is to ask your breakdown service, AA, RAC etc, they have experts.
If you build your own trailer, boat or box, you are supposed to take it for a IVA test, trailers come under single use vehicles, if you go on you.gov it tells you what inspector will check and the top ten fails, you have to have permanent lights fitted to boat trailer without boat on, presumably this is where the lighting board regulations come in which states you may attach light board to load, ie, if with boat on trailer fixed lights are more than a metre from furthest aft section of load.
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Don't forget there may be more than one piece of legislation involved. Just because something isn't mentioned in one act doesn't mean it is not in a different one. After all we wouldn't want the law to be intelligible without consulting trained lawyers now would we...
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I always try to supply relevant accurate facts, especially when the law and safety is involved, where I have put vehicle it applies to trailers and motor vehicle, trailer is a vehicle after all, I will edit previous post to show this.
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I am just pointing out the trailer design, that we are led to believe is a legal requirement and design, (Else why would the mainstream trailer companies have the extensions?) is not at all practical for dinghies.

Like my personal number plate - I could have squeezed the letters to have made the word - but I prefer to minimize my exposure to a police stop. Yes, I exceed the speed limit occassionally and do all sorts of silly driving mistakes, but for towing, do I need the hassle of a Police Stop when I am trying to get the boat to a club or home? Just being sensible.
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That refers to the vehicke, not the trailer, which has separate requirements
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<span style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; : rgb255, 255, 255;">Actually it says A vehicle/trailer which carries a load or equipment which obscures any obligatory lamp, reflector or rear marking. the obligatory lamp, reflector or rear marking </span><b style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; : rgb255, 255, 255;">shall be transferred to a position on the<span style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; : rgb255, 255, 255;"> vehicle, </span><b style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; : rgb255, 255, 255;">load<span style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; : rgb255, 255, 255;"> or equipment where it is not obscured; [or fit an extra lamp etc].</span><br style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, "lucida grande", arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; : rgb255, 255, 255;">
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Originally posted by Paramedic

 

Well I know of a case where someone did drive into there back of someones boat, they were't using outriggers and they did pay out.

So we both could be wrong. But there i say again for the umpteenth time that there is no requirement in law to use them.


Really?

The law states that (to paraphrase) the lighting board shall be attached to the trailer, NOT the 'load'. 


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Originally posted by H2

If you have an accident where say a car drives into the back of your boat whilst you are trailing and you had a new trailer with outriggers and were NOT using them I suspect (ahem...know) that the insurer will refuse the claim.

Well I know of a case where someone did drive into there back of someones boat, they were't using outriggers and they did pay out.

So we both could be wrong. But there i say again for the umpteenth time that there is no requirement in law to use them.

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