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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 20 at 10:44am
The Ent is a 'sit in' boat and very kind to older knees and hips and larger people. The OP is not particularly big (5' 10" and 15 stone or so) but finds the small cockpit of the Laser uncomfortable. In his case the Ent is probably not the best choice as he's a bit light for it solo but for the 22 stone/6' 6" sailor mentioned up-thread it could be ideal.

Lots of other alternatives too though, many also mentioned in this thread.
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Almost half the boats in Heron nationals last year were sailed solo, can't see a problem with it myself, whatever works for an individual sailor.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zeon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 20 at 12:53pm
There is a big difference between sailing a two man boat like a heron/mirror/gull or firefly singlehanded than sailing a larger boat like a enterprise.
Still think the op would be better off with a proper singlehander .
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I have done both over the years and it's entirely a matter of size. The Ent I had in my 30's was no harder to singlehand than the Heron I had as a teenager, the only significant difference is that the upper wind limit is, obviously, lower. The Ent also has the option of a cruising rig or, if you're a cheapskate like me, you could scrounge a suit of Firefly sails from a mate and stick them on it. I taught my son to sail using just the Firefly mainsail and half centreboard to balance the boat.

We don't know precisely what his issues are that make the Laser uncomfortable but, I agree that if the OP can find a singlehander that suits him that would likely be a better option.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 20 at 8:40pm
People shouldn't be put off from sailing a dinghy that suits them, that allows them to sail with physical issues.
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When I was in my teens (yes, ages ago!), I was taught to sail in an Enterprise, first with the instructor, then solo.
By choosing a suit of sails suitable to the conditions it's perfectly ok to by singlehanded.
IIRC, the Firefly rig is about 10sq.ft. smaller than the Ent, but the Firefly hull has moretendency to roll...

I'm quite happy s/h in our Wanderer - it's the 14ft version of the Wayfarer, fitted with roller furling for the job, slab reefing for the main it's able to be sailed I'm different wind strengths.

The traditional sailing dinghies (Ent, Firefly, Heron etc) over a more user-friendly type of accommodation than the "sit-on" modern designs like the laser, Zero etc..

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Sailing it is one thing, racing it competitively is another.

Most of us race our boats and don't just go out for a potter about. If you want to race a boat competitively a smaller set or flatter set of sails are not going to enable you to sail a doublehander competitively against a fully crewed competitive boat.

My recommendation, take a good luck at the other singlehanders sailed at your club and have a go in a few, then make up your mind.
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If a person needs to sail an unusual dinghy due to ill health or other physical reasons, PY should be adjusted accordingly, they should not be disadvantaged.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 20 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by ColPrice2002

When I was in my teens (yes, ages ago!), I was taught to sail in an Enterprise, first with the instructor, then solo.
By choosing a suit of sails suitable to the conditions it's perfectly ok to by singlehanded.
IIRC, the Firefly rig is about 10sq.ft. smaller than the Ent, but the Firefly hull has moretendency to roll...

Ent is 10.7m2/115sq ft Firefly has 8.36m2/90sq ft is about 25sq ft smaller or a very useful 22% smaller.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GarethT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 20 at 7:53pm
This guy is a similar size to most club laser sailors, but is looking for something a bit more comfortable.

In terms of bangs for bucks, I'd suggest a Supernova. The laser fleet at my old club pretty much all migrated to them, some via phantoms, and seem to love them.
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