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    Posted: 26 Jul 19 at 10:40am
Oh, and get yourself some hikers with pads that protect the back of your thighs when sitting out. Best go-faster gadget there is.
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That is a really useful guide FAB100 - tempted to print it and glue on the Laser!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fab100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 19 at 1:40pm
Here's my tip sheet on setting laser controls

http://clubsailor.co.uk/wp/sailing-faster/in-lasers/


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The other thing you will notice is that heeling the boat to leeward makes it turn upwind: heel to windward and it will turn downwind.

If you're hiking and the wind drops, you're going to him drag in the water, and heel to windward so you'll need to counter the sudden change from weather helm to Lee helm....

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'Heavy' usually means rudder blade not fully down.

'Lots' usually means too much main.

Even a little bit of rudder rake can make a lot of difference.

If these are club boats with dodgy cleats on the rudder downhaul, ask around for tips and tricks to make it work.

Replace tatty lines with new 'meatier' ones,and consider replacing tired old jam cleats with small reliable horn cleats.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jumps Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 19 at 11:44pm
Thanks All, Some helpful advise here (as usual), book is now on my order list, will try some of your suggestion this evening, current forcast looking at 9mph + 17mph gusts (hope it gets slightly stronger)
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Yup, keep the boat flat is the key even if it means spilling wind (the raked rudder on the Laser exaggerates the weather helm when fully down so if it's raked even further 'cos of a slipping rudder downhaul that'll be even worse). All the other stuff matters (kicker, cunningham, traveler etc) but keeping it flat matters even more so sheet out until you can keep it flat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SoggyBadger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 19 at 8:41pm
You don't say how much you weigh but I suspect most of your problem is down to not having enough kicker on when the wind picks up. The "ideal" is to have the mainsheet traveller/horse/thingy set as tight as possible whilst still allowing allowing the mainsheet block to pass over the tiller and have the aft end of the boom over the edge of the transom. You use the kicker to flatten the sail just enough so that you can keep the boat flat by hiking.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote A2Z Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 19 at 7:59pm
Ah, if it’s a Laser you’ll be pulling (weather helm) almost certainly as a result of not being flat enough, not having controls pulled on tight enough and/or the rudder not being fully down.  

There are some very comprehensive ‘sail by numbers’ books for the Laser specifically, which are a useful way of learning how to use the controls etc on all points and in all winds. Tim Davison is the author of one I think, but there are others.  Well worth the money. 
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