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Poll Question: Have you ever snapped, or bent beyond repair, a mast?
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    Posted: 07 Dec 15 at 8:55pm
Bent an Albacore mast when the quadrant lever sheared off. The shroud and attached broken lever took the bullseye clean out of the wooden deck (no deck damage) and whipped up taking the vane off the Hawk on the top of the mast. I reckon I was lucky!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gfinch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 15 at 8:27pm
Laser top mast in light airs and laser boom in strong winds after s gybe! 4000 on its first outing (for me) too, as soon as some kicker was put on.
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Originally posted by getafix

Like many here I have had a couple of Laser mast breaks, one my doing, one down to a clash between me (upwind) and a boat approaching downwind that broached.  I've snapped N12 and MR mast sections before too.  The worst culprit for 'design problems' was the Laser2 mast; two for me but I've seen countless at opens and summer regattas.  Usually by tipping in with the kite up or running into the next wave with the kite up, but they were fragile if you had a clash of masts too (saw a few in the starting area but avoided that fate myself).

One thing that gets overlooked in the whole "big fleets are best" argument oft tripped out on these pages is the likelihood of having your pride and joy bashed by someone else in these 'big fleet' events goes up very sharply when numbers get above 40-50 on a start line and, before someone says it, yes I've also witnessed crashes on gate starts too (though thankfully only once it was me when I hit the guard boat during a youthful topper event at the worlds coldest lake, Grafham).


I thought everyone had hit the guard boat once or twice? I'm guilty of parking an N12 bow on the sponson of one and then getting dragged along with it. Didn't break that mast though!
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Like many here I have had a couple of Laser mast breaks, one my doing, one down to a clash between me (upwind) and a boat approaching downwind that broached.  I've snapped N12 and MR mast sections before too.  The worst culprit for 'design problems' was the Laser2 mast; two for me but I've seen countless at opens and summer regattas.  Usually by tipping in with the kite up or running into the next wave with the kite up, but they were fragile if you had a clash of masts too (saw a few in the starting area but avoided that fate myself).

One thing that gets overlooked in the whole "big fleets are best" argument oft tripped out on these pages is the likelihood of having your pride and joy bashed by someone else in these 'big fleet' events goes up very sharply when numbers get above 40-50 on a start line and, before someone says it, yes I've also witnessed crashes on gate starts too (though thankfully only once it was me when I hit the guard boat during a youthful topper event at the worlds coldest lake, Grafham).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fraggle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 15 at 12:08pm
As an ex laser sailor it goes with the territory that you are going to snap spars.

2/3 radial bottom sections. (On one of these safety took quite a while to realise why I was waving at them as I was upright and they completely missed the lack of a big flappy white thing)
2/3 booms
2 top sections. (Ridiculously one of these was practicing roll tacking in less than 5 knots and I had a brand new sail on)

As I sailed lasers for about 20 years I think I did fairly well. That total isn't including the many spars that were binned as being too bent to be worth keeping though.
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Finn ... seems expensive for something that seems pretty robust ...
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The high Finn cost is really because of the cost of a new mast - 3,000 and u


The high Finn cost is really because of the cost of a new mast - 3,000 and upwards. In reality they rarely break during normal sailing
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2547 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 15 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by JimC

Worth remembering that one injury claim is worth an awful lot of mast replacements.

Indeed; thankfully I have never heard of a personal injury claim on a dinghy policy and long may that remain the case.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote PeterG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 15 at 6:45pm
Well, for balance, I haven't posted on this thread before, because I didn't think my experience isn't really exciting enough! I've managed to bend Laser topmasts a couple of times, but only by a small amount, so straightened them myself. I've once managed to bend both top and bottom mast together in a Laser, rolling it the shore break at Eastbourne. I've also once rolled a Contender under the same circumstances and got away with it, though a friend was not so lucky a week or so later. Over the past 10 years of paying insurance policies for 2 boats I've claimed back one Laser mast (both sections - bent on Sunday and sailing again on Wed, thanks to Noble). I reckon I'm not too bad a risk!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 15 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by JimC

Worth remembering that one injury claim is worth an awful lot of mast replacements.

I don't know I'd want to state that the vast majority have broken masts, we could be looking at self selection. Certainly don't get that many at my club.


Agree, breaking masts is rare, even in Lasers. Suspect either we sail more than average, or more likely stories of "I didn't break my mast" aren't good reading.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 15 at 6:27pm
Seem to remember a Neal Macdonald quote "a mast is fastest just before it breaks"
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