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    Posted: 26 Jan 16 at 10:35pm
Or bung lead on the bottom, or sail a West Wight Scow.

Personally, I don't think trapping is the answer to the problem, it needs a whole new level of commitment.

Which isn't to say it isn't fun, and worth doing in its own right.

Edited by Rupert - 26 Jan 16 at 10:36pm
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Or just go multihull...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 16 at 10:18pm
Well JimC while in no way wishing to get personal but don't I see you sitting upright on a plank? Tongue in cheek perhaps.

I'm inclined to agree somewhat with GRF on this one.

Firstly to be clear I do have full respect for professionals in biomechanics.

I do find it a subject of wry amusement though, all the collective wisdom directed at solving a problem of our own making.  Com'on people on the one hand we worry about sailing being elitist and inaccessible and on the other talk of professional sailors with good technique vs weekenders.

Make boats with a righting moment matched to their sail area, simples  Wink. More use of sit on winglets, people have evolved to carry loads in the vertical posture, hanging out horizontally unsupported is just plain wrong. Yeh yeh I hear the cries of man up or ship out and no pain no gain, how about the other one, if it's hurting you're doing it wrong?

Want even more? Get a trapeze boat, single handers with a kind hull form are quite accessible to non athletes and two person single trapeze give power without pain.

  
  
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Originally posted by iGRF

and dignity does not involve all that nasty hikey nonesense


Perhaps all sailing gear should have a black band say two thirds of the way from knee to cheek, and hiking out with the black band unsupported by structure prohibited...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 16 at 3:06pm
Why thank you George, er just a wild guess on my part, but have you reached your fortieth birthday yet?

It's just that when you do, some 28 years later things won't work quite as well, so all those nasty exercise things you talk of.. er no thanks, got that t Shirt a long time ago now. Sailing is supposed to be a gentile sport for us old boys to quietly retire in boats called dignity.. and dignity does not involve all that nasty hikey nonesense, but thanks for your advice for our younger readers just the same I'm sure they cant wait to try it.. meanwhile I'll stick to my periodic Bowen where I can fantasize about matron giving me a happy ending

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Without sounding too self important, im an ex Laser Squadie and qualified Strength and conditioning coach, so this is an area I feel I can help with.

Back pain resulting from hiking will be due to tight or tonic hip flexor muscle-chiefly the Psoa.

In terms of structural integrity of the hip and causing muscular imbalances, hiking is one of the worst activities for creating over developed /overactive muscles on one side of the joint which will lead to injury or pain. But this doesn't mean you need to stop.

Your back pain isn't caused by a problem with your lower back muscles (Spinal erectors). It is likely caused by tight and overactive hip flexors pulling on the lower back.

To make matters worse after we sail we often then sit in a car on the way home. So the Psoas muscle has been activated and gets short while sailing, then it is set in a a shorted state afterwards.

REMEDY: You need to lengthen and stretch the Psoas which is on the front of the hip (anterior), and also strength the muscles on the posterior hip.

BOWEN: Is a bit hit and miss. However there are other techniques you can do on your self. SMFR Self -Myofascial release will work. Follow the techniques in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4nWPeyDfNM In addition do a hip stretch straight after sailing prior to driving home without exception.

Your shortened hip flexor may also be causing a Lumbar pelvic tilt. This will shorten the low back muscles and may casue pain and inhibit mobility. To cure this you need to
-Stretch the low back
-Stretch the Psoas
-Strengthen the Glutes, hamstrings and abdominal muscles. (Ideally in the gym- Deadlifts, lunges, squats etc)

Another reason for pain may be weak abdominal muslces when hiking. If they are weak then you will bow forward and hang off th hip flexors. You often see this when you compare the hiking posture of a poor sailor to a professional.

So you need to strengthen the abdominal muscles while ensuring you are not shortening the Psoas muscle further. You do this by Doing exercises which involve maximilly tyhe abbs. Eg Planks, sit ups and crunches, V sits. Google' Anti extension core exercises'. After each set of abb exercises you must then do a hip flexor stretch, to ensure the hip is being lengthened.

I have used this method with many athletes I have coached. Im sure it will help.

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... and there was me thinking it was the views on homosexuals, not the travelling community.  whatever next, rationale debate from BustinBalls back there?
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Golden Graeme... why no one has called me that since the year I was turned down for Sports Personality of the year 1981 because of my outspokenviews on pikeys.
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Well Golden Graeme has convinced us all beyond reasonable doubt that the RYA is underhandly manipulating the Dinghy market for its own dubious ends so he must be right about Bowen ......oh wait a minute.
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Does it matter? Perception is reality and all that.
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