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    Posted: 01 Nov 16 at 4:11pm
Agreed, particularly true for identical boats and well matched sailors.
Being possible to defend a lead is theory and actually managing to do it in practice is another thing of course.

Chris Larr of Northampton and myself had a great race where we were within about two boat lengths of each other the whole way around. Whenever the difference got to about four boat lengths it almost (likely deceptively) felt safe.
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There's a lot in that I think. If every lap of every race was the same it would take an awful lot of interest out.
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Originally posted by Peter Barton

Perversely I think it would have been even better racing if it had been shiftier and flukier. With the wind coming over the corner of the dam it was as steady as you could expect. The short length of legs made it possible for a sailor sailing as fast and tacking as well as his chasers to defend a lead.

Conversely at Burghfield a month earlier the wind was really shifty and variable in pressure when tacking up between the islands. This kept everyone right on their toes all the way to the end as nothing was ever protectable. Risk management was vital and over five races the short moments of good luck and bad luck evened out. 

Comparing the two it is interesting to think that some fluctuating or even random element that opens up opportunities and needs managing can add extra interest to the challenge when so often it is looked upon as less optimum for racing. The variety is key too though.

That makes a lot of sense - it might help that you've got proper fleet racing, in arguably about as equally matched as you can get boats....  I'm not sure variable conditions with mismatched boats is quite so apealling, even with the relatively robust handicap system we now have available to us.  
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Perversely I think it would have been even better racing if it had been shiftier and flukier. With the wind coming over the corner of the dam it was as steady as you could expect. The short length of legs made it possible for a sailor sailing as fast and tacking as well as his chasers to defend a lead.

Conversely at Burghfield a month earlier the wind was really shifty and variable in pressure when tacking up between the islands. This kept everyone right on their toes all the way to the end as nothing was ever protectable. Risk management was vital and over five races the short moments of good luck and bad luck evened out. 

Comparing the two it is interesting to think that some fluctuating or even random element that opens up opportunities and needs managing can add extra interest to the challenge when so often it is looked upon as less optimum for racing. The variety is key too though.
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looks like good racing - almost despite the light winds!
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Massive thanks to Des Seal who filmed our recent 41 boat Magic Marine RS Aero UK Inland Champs at Chelmarsh and took some interesting perspectives using a drone.
The aerial view is really useful in sailing as the 3D enables the viewer better judgement of distances and angles, particularly interesting when filming start lines and the angles of exit from them;


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Definitely. For cheap thrills and good racing you cannot go far wrong. Until you reach a certain age and cannot live with the downside.

Horses for courses, I would say a majority of the UK dinghy population has sailed a laser at least once.


There seem to be a fair few making it past retirement without reaching that 'certain age'.

I agree, they are probably far fitter than me and can rest a bit more than me for the days after.

I will stick with my new choice though it has bought my love of sailing back to life. Were it not for it I would likely be an ex-dinghy sailor by now.
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Riv, don't give up on the full rig yet.

My view was always that the full rig/radial handling wasn't really all that different.  However the use of sail controls to make the sail do what you want is different primarily due to the radial having a much greater luff curve cut into the sail.

I ended up regularly sailing the full rig even at a 5ft 7 70ish kg because in club racing the radial just gets killed on handicap (although this was back when radials were faster than Enterprises)
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Originally posted by jeffers

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Definitely. For cheap thrills and good racing you cannot go far wrong. Until you reach a certain age and cannot live with the downside.

Horses for courses, I would say a majority of the UK dinghy population has sailed a laser at least once.


There seem to be a fair few making it past retirement without reaching that 'certain age'.
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I usually sail a Laser Radial, went out in a breeze with the standard rig and found it a real pain, so even at 6ft 1" and shrinking and 82kg I'll keep with the radial and just enjioy the nicer handling.
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