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    Posted: 20 Nov 13 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by Sailing Coach

 When coaching at a sailing club or for a class association they should cover your insurance (but check with them).

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Hi,

If you look on the RYA website in coaching resources they have just updated there information. http://www.rya.org.uk/coursestraining/coachestrainersinstructors/racecoaches/Pages/Resources.aspx

To paraphrase it:

·         You need to be qualified with a valid RYA coaching award and a current first aid award.

·         When coaching at a RYA Training Centre they should have insurance.

·         When coaching at a sailing club or for a class association they should cover your insurance (but check with them).

·         If you are working on own boat tuition you will need insurance.

·         Also check your power boat is insured.

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Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by winging it

Yes, I had assumed they were. A visiting coach should have their own insurance.

Visiting pupils would also not be covered. Only club members. 

Won't visitors be temporary members, ie they are paying for some training? 

I was with Heath Lambert, now Gallagher Heath
http://www.rya.org.uk/newsevents/enewsletters/theclubroom/sept2011/Pages/GallagherHeath.aspx

It was about £50 a year, never claimed but was required for the Powerboat instructing I was doing.

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Originally posted by winging it

Yes, I had assumed they were. A visiting coach should have their own insurance.

Visiting pupils would also not be covered. Only club members. 
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Yes, I had assumed they were. A visiting coach should have their own insurance.
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Originally posted by winging it

If the class expert is being supervised by a qualified coach and the event is being held within the remit of a recognised training centre then they should be reasonably safe.  The coach or SI in charge should have carried out a basic risk assessment for the day which will include current and forecast conditons, number of boats, sailing area, level of competence of sailors, safety cover etc.  If the paperwork is in place then the chances of being successfully sued are iminmal if operating within a recognised rya training centre.

Outside such an environment yes, quite some risk.

My investigation so far indicates that is only true if all parties (coach & pupils) are members of the club/RTC
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If the class expert is being supervised by a qualified coach and the event is being held within the remit of a recognised training centre then they should be reasonably safe.  The coach or SI in charge should have carried out a basic risk assessment for the day which will include current and forecast conditons, number of boats, sailing area, level of competence of sailors, safety cover etc.  If the paperwork is in place then the chances of being successfully sued are iminmal if operating within a recognised rya training centre.

Outside such an environment yes, quite some risk.
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Originally posted by 2547

RTC = ?

RCL2 = ?
So ... if a class expert (non-RYA ticketed) wants to run a training day they are doing so at quite some risk???


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stevie_GTI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 13 at 10:27am
Being a member of the rya does not cover you, as far as I'm aware.

I would recommend that you check your clubs insurance policy, it may be that coaches are covered. But then what counts as being a coach.....if you don't have the qualification then in my eyes you're not a coach. Don't forget you need a valid first aid certificate and atleast pb2 to get a coaching qualification, which is probably why you need the qualification to get insured.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2547 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 13 at 10:15am
Originally posted by Bootscooter

Doesn't RYA membership give you the required coverage if you're qualified?

I don't think so ... be careful ...
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