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m_liddell
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Topic: The RS600 - opinions and how do you tack Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 12:22pm |
I had a go in one and had a great time, the wind was only F3 but still loads of fun. Having just one sail and trapezing off the racks made it feel quite close to windsurfing. All the complexity, hassle and time it takes to rig my 14 made my really appreciate this. I did have some problems tacking it even in this wind strength. The friend I borrowed it off said just hit the wire on the exit of the tack before you do anything at all, if the battens go and you are not out there you are f*cked. I didn¡¦t believe this and swam on the first tack I did! No matter how much you sheet out on the exit you will swim. Tacking slower to give me a bit more time worked a bit but the danger in a single hander with just the main is getting stuck in irons. Gybing was far easier. EDIT: If found this vid on the MPS site http://www.mustoskiff.com/videos/wende.mpg. I don¡¦t doubt the guys ability but I don¡¦t think you could get away with tacking like this. I sail (and occasionally swim round!) a 14 with a crew that doesn't wire to wire tack and that that has a big fully battened main and I never have any problems at all. Here is my method: Ease the sheet a bit and cleat it Anything wrong with this? 600 people, what is the trick? Anyone got any other opinions on the boat? I might be in the market for one and I really liked the simplicity and quick hassle free rigging. The reefing sounds good (I'm 70kg 5'10") and they are pretty cheap. I didn¡¦t find it tippy at all apart from the tacking dramas. Does it ever get a bit boring downwind with no spin? The guy said he borrowed a 700 and found it boring because it was too easy to sail! Comparing the two of the boats in the boat part revealed that the hull shape is totally different (700 a bit 800ish?) and the huge fully battened main has been replaced with a smaller 'soft' rig like the 800. Edited by m_liddell |
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combat wombat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 12:44pm |
See "The Contender" thread for a bit of discussion on the 600.
I've never sailed one but they are regarded as at the "top end" of the
scale when it comes to difficulty. I'd never say the 700 was
boring though! Y&Y test said it was easier to sail, as it has hard
chines rather than a round bottom making it inherently stable rather
than inherently tippy!
Launching the 600 is hard. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 7:51pm |
Try this for the entry of the tack in the 600 - take your hand under the trapeze elastic and regrab the main, then when you're ready to finally go for the tack, uncleat the main whilst keeping the tension on, reach up to your disc/handle and unhook and move into the centre of the boat. The main will ease as you go in and because you took the main under the trapeze elastice it means you havn't come into the boat dragging the trapeze with you. If you keep the boat as flat as possble and enter the tack using this method then the exit becomes much less daunting. I hope i explained that properly.
Doug Edited by Doug.H |
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Prince Buster
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 8:29pm |
well i went sailing for the first time in my 600 today but as you can see......there was no wind lol! .
Didnt learn much but how to drift effectively! theres a load on how to
tack and gybe here..........
http://www.superspars.com/RS600. html
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 9:31pm |
Prince buster
Your lookin quite small, how much do you weigh?? (kilo's preferably) |
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Prince Buster
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 9:35pm |
about 53 on a light day and 55 after i've eaten .
But yeah i am kind of small but im fed up with hanging off a laser
radial ina F4 and going nowhere fast while other people are just
monstering it. I wanted a little more speed for my effort input
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Villan
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 9:57pm |
Seriously :o
And here was me thinking i'd be too light for one (65kg) |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 10:12pm |
nah i played around on my friends one for a while before i got 637 and i was fine with the big rig most of the time!
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 06 at 10:29pm |
villan,
You would be fine at 65kg, you just keep on cranking the cunningham! and once uve got as much on as your arms will let you pull......you find a way of pulling on some more!! p.s im only weighing 61-63kg and can hold it down without too many issues Edited by Doug.H |
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m_liddell
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 06 at 12:44am |
A lot of the used boats have small racks. I'm 70kg so I guess I *could* use small racks, does it make a big difference when not racing?
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